[j45]

Bullying is unrelated to corporal punishment - Self-defence is ok.

Please do not conflate those two things.

If a bully has never felt what they dish out, they may not like it.

Self-defence is ok.

For the young people in my life, I always advise to not escalate, be clear it's not ok, seek an adult's help, and if all reasonable attempts have failed, it's a-ok to stand up for yourself and neutralize a threat when the people and systems around you aren't.

I don't condone violence. But I also see we live in a world where the world fights to force it's way on others.

I take massive grains of salt on such opinions someone is from a group more likely to be a bully or not.

[btilly]

No, they are related. Corporal punishment of children predicts later bullying. Here are two random links into the research.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/37267760/

https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/european-psychiatry/...

[j45]

My comment has nothing to do with corporal punishment causing bullying.

I'm referring to children being left to deal with bullying directly, however it arrives inside the bully.

Whether bullying arises from home, adults at school, or otherwise is secondary.

Teachers today can often tell kids to sort it out themselves.

The strategy is to remain respectful, firmly ask for it to stop, tell an adult, and if all of those things have failed, self-defence is a last resort to the point of stopping the current and future level of bullying.

There is a reason parents put their kids into martial arts, etc.

[exe34]

punishing by adults in charge. fighting back and a promise to always pay back more is very different.