[norrishung]

Its possible that oversight here was on Marco's part and not the Apple Store's. If his grandfather had told an Apple Genius that "he wanted to make sure he could transfer his stuff onto a new iPad in case this one ever broke", chances are that the Genius would have known what he was talking about. Instead, Marco doesn't trust his grandfather to explain that coherently and has him write down the cryptic words "ICLOUD BACKUP". To be fair, those words don't mean much by themselves and I could see why the Genius thought he was doing the right thing.

[josephcooney]

So, as per usual, when apple stuff doesn't work it is the user's fault. Right?

[norrishung]

I hate how everyone immediately takes every comment as pro or anti apple on the web. Im not trying to defend Apple here. My comment was more about taking responsibilities for your own actions before immediately blaming someone else.

[yozmsn]

"he wanted to make sure he could transfer his stuff onto a new iPad in case this one ever broke" You realize that you're suggesting a hack, this is not at all what he wants to do, he wants to use his iPad with all the stuff on it. Maybe Marco should've suggested "ask them to make a backup before they do anything as they should be doing anyway"

[RHSeeger]

I'd actually label it as both of their faults. I'll give you an example from software development...

The product manager comes to me and says "I need you to add this field to the set of data stored for this thing". In the specific scenario I'm talking about, there's two ways it can go:

1. I blindly add the field for them. Later on, it turns out this field duplicates another field in that it can be calculated from that one. The fact that there's two fields that have the same "data" means that users get confused.

2. I ask the product manager what it is they're trying to accomplish by adding the field, so that I can make sure the implementation being asked for is the correct one. We find out it isn't and, instead of adding the field, we add an additional view of the data that allows the user to specify it two different ways. Everyone is happy.

My point is that the person going into the Apple store should make sure to describe what it is they are trying to accomplish, not just what they want the person to do. Similarly, the Apple worker should know to ask for what the person is trying to accomplish rather than implementing it. Both individuals could have done things better, both are responsible.