[pols45]

It is not decay. People are just more conscious than previous generations ever were about how the world works. And that leads to confusion and misunderstandings if they are only exposed to herd think.

The chicken doesn't understand it has to lay a certain number of eggs a day to be kept alive in the farm. It hits its metrics because it has been programmed to hit them.

But once it gets access to chatgpt and develops consciousness of how the farm works, the questions it asks slowly evolve with time.

Initially its all fear driven - how do we get a say in how many eggs we need to lay to be kept alive? How do we keep the farm running without relying on the farmer? etc etc

Once the farm animals begins to realize the absurdity of such questions, new questions emerge - how come the crow is not a farm animal? why is the shark not used as a circus animal? etc etc

And thro that process, whose steps cannot be skipped the farm animal begins to realize certain things about itself which no one, especially the farmer, has any incentive of encouraging.

[binary132]

truly, nobody ever asked such questions until they had access to the world’s most sycophantic dumb answer generating machine

[gsf_emergency_4]

Are you entertaining the idea that chatGPT should become Pastoral Care for the masses? Sounds like an easier target than AGI.

(Stoics have already taken issue with the notion that fear is the motive for all human action, and yes, consciousness is a part of their prescription)

Separately,

"Hard work seems to lead to things getting better"

sounds like an unsung (fully human) impulse

https://geohot.github.io/blog/jekyll/update/2025/10/24/gambl...

[hunterpayne]

Ideology is a -10 modifier on Intelligence

[dns_snek]

Are you implying that there are people who don't have ideology or that they're somehow capable of reasoning and acting independently of their ideology?

[hunterpayne]

I'm implying that some people put ideology above everything else including data, experience and context. Most people don't but some do. People of course have biases based upon experience. But they make a good faith attempt to be accurate. Others are completely blinded to reality by ideology. Acting like this doesn't happen just because people have different opinions is just dishonest.