[legitster]

From Jassy's blog post in September:

>It’s created artifacts that we’d like to change (e.g., pre-meetings for the pre-meetings for the decision meetings, a longer line of managers feeling like they need to review a topic before it moves forward, owners of initiatives feeling less like they should make recommendations because the decision will be made elsewhere, etc.) [...] So, we’re asking each s-team organization to increase the ratio of individual contributors to managers by at least 15% by the end of Q1 2025. Having fewer managers will remove layers and flatten organizations more than they are today.

Amazon is a meatgrinder on its workforce, but I will give credit where it's due - I think thinning out management is a noble goal and endeavor. If it's true that these layoffs don't impact as many IC roles, it's probably worth calling that out.

(It's just awful convenient that the timing of this is also when everyone is staring down a rough economy)

[whatshisface]

If the problem is that lower-downs are carrying out extensive planning for meetings where higher-ups are present, the culture issue might not be with the people who are adapting...

[busymom0]

Original link to Jassy's blog post in September:

https://www.aboutamazon.com/news/company-news/ceo-andy-jassy...

[SilverElfin]

> Amazon is a meatgrinder on its workforce, but I will give credit where it's due - I think thinning out management is a noble goal and endeavor. If it's true that these layoffs don't impact as many IC roles, it's probably worth calling that out.

Their filings show that it is still mostly ICs. If you’re doing a cut of 15% of the company (or whatever the number is), that has to include a large number of ICs.