[Max-Ganz-II]

Russia invaded Ukraine, inflicting untold horror, and Russia is a threat to Europe.

In the circumstances of early 2022, I would have expected a way to be found, in the knowledge that such an action - telescope held to blind eye - would be condoned.

[jesterson]

> Russia invaded Ukraine, inflicting untold horror, and Russia is a threat to Europe.

Realistically it is way more nuanced than that. Its a juvenile worldview to think in black and white.

Not willing to start any discussion on the matter, but you may want to know about massacres ukraine did in it's eastern side. After all, the russian invasion wasnt that unprovoked at all (albeit as any force causing many to suffer, it's hard to justify it).

The bottomline is - reality is way more nuanced than just black and white.

[mieses]

No, it's really very simple. What kind of person wants to become a CEO of Russia, Ukraine, or Transferwise?

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Or Wirecard lol

[Max-Ganz-II]

> Not willing to start any discussion on the matter, but you may want to know about massacres ukraine did in it's eastern side.

This is a Russian narrative.

> After all, the russian invasion wasnt that unprovoked at all

This also is a Russian narrative.

It seems to me you have been from some source been absorbing Russian material.

Putin is a dictator. A few years after he came to power in 2000, Russia was once again living in fear; you did not speak out. If you did, fines, prison, penal colonies with death and violence, or now and then being thrown out of windows.

It looks from material being produced by Putin, the State and the military Russia by about 2010 was looking to take Ukraine.

Putin had his man running Ukraine - into corruption and thuggery - until Euromaiden. He fled to Russia. Literally immediately after that, plan B - the small war began. Finally, 2022, the big war.

There is nothing here where we go "it was not that unprovoked".

Ukraine wanted, and wanted, freedom. To be itself, and not to live in a hell-hole dictatorship. Putin wants to possess Ukraine, because that's how he and it seems a good part of Russian State culture sees the world; in terms of power, conquest and territory.

[jesterson]

> This is a Russian narrative.

What is the "russian narrative"? Whats is this made up definition?

> Putin is a dictator.

Based on what?

> Russia was once again living in fear; you did not speak out

I don't think Russia is living in fear, neither I should be speaking out as I am not in any way related to it.

> It looks from material being produced by Putin, the State and the military Russia by about 2010 was looking to take Ukraine

Doubt this is true.

> Putin had his man running Ukraine - into corruption and thuggery

Yea, all presidents/PMs were "his men". If this is not propaganda what you are desperately trying to do (and you do it quite poorly I must admit), then I don't know what propaganda is.

> Ukraine wanted, and wanted, freedom

Thats why ukraine sold everything it had, including it's rare minerals for years to west :) We certainly have different definitions of freedom.

> Putin wants to possess Ukraine,

There is no proof for that. What "posess" means?