[cess11]

Yes, that was the promise you made. You said 'besides our commercial offering we're going to support your personal projects you run out of passion, forever' and then you changed it to 'actually, we're going to delete your passion projects unless you pay us money'.

You should absolutely regret making that promise. As I understand it you're wrapping hardware at AWS and GCP, and likely have since the beginning, so you should absolutely have understood that this was a bad promise because it was dependent on recurring costs towards those suppliers that you did not have control over.

[encoderer]

“you should absolutely have understood that this was a bad promise”

Absolutely wild to me that you talk to peers like children.

Nobody owes you anything. It’s all best effort.

[ksec]

It is both strange, fascinating but also wired and scary to watch all of these unfold in real life. Not just on the internet.

In pre 2010 era, we all knew Unlimited Bandwidth, Unlimited Storage was marketing and no one believes it. There is some sort of limit, and as long as we dont get caught it is fine. Free "forever" offering, Unlimited were all best effort. And It isn't just tech, but also politics. I mean they all say it but most wouldn't believe it.

And then we have a whole new generation of people who dont have this as norm anymore. They do believe everything should be free and could be free. Utopia is just around the corner. The cost of anything is so abstracted and muddled they have no idea why anything is priced as such.

[rkomorn]

Maybe the weird part was our generation getting obviously lied to by marketing and being like "this is fine"?

Maybe we shouldn't have been so accepting of long lists of asterisks/footnotes in ads or ToCs that invalidate much of the promotional material?

[cess11]

Yeah, you should be very adult and say that when corporations come to you and remind you that they think you owe them something.