[gspencley]

I switched to Affinity as part an ongoing effort to "de-Adobe-ize." I had no idea that they were owned by Canva.

This could be good news, but as someone who paid for a perpetual license, I'm worried that some of the features I paid a one-time license for will eventually move to a Canva subscription model :(

The reason that worries me is that when I look at the feature chart, you've got "Affinity" compared with "Affinity + Canva Premium Plans."

Subscriptions make sense for certain services. I'm not opposed to a subscription model in general. But for creative tools, I LOATHE subscriptions. It means that my creative work is now held hostage by rent-seekers who require me to pay them monthly fees to be able to access my art work. NO!

So if I ever need a Canva Premium plan in the future to be able to use certain Affinity features that I've PAID FOR then fuck them, I'm abandoning them as fast I abandoned Adobe after being an Adobe user/customer for 30+ years.

[latexr]

> I'm worried that some of the features I paid a one-time license for will eventually move to a Canva subscription model

They explicitly promised they wouldn’t switch to a subscription model, during the acquisition.

https://www.canva.com/newsroom/news/affinity-canva-pledge/

Whether that is true is another thing altogether.

[Kye]

Stopping development of the thing you paid for to launch a subscription app is the same thing. V2 launched with basically no new features or improvements and everyone expected it to improve over time like V1 did.

[ezfe]

> I'm worried that some of the features I paid a one-time license for will eventually move to a Canva subscription model

> to be able to use certain Affinity features that I've PAID FOR then fuck them

Your license is perpetual for V2, so I wouldn't worry that you'll lose access to it?

[gspencley]

I'm not worried that I'm going to lose access to V2. I'm worried that they are moving in the same rent-seeking direction that Adobe did that caused me to migrate to Affinity in the first place.

Creative tools are, to artists, like IDEs and git repositories are to coders.

Imagine you spend years getting very proficient at specific development tools, and you use a repo host like GitHub. One day your dev tools providers tell you that they are moving to a subscription model. You can continue to use the legacy stuff to access your source code. But if you choose to migrate to a new vendor, all of that legacy source code is now coupled to your old dev tools. Hopefully you have some sort of export -> import functionality so you can migrate. But this doesn't help the fact that you spent years honing your craft in a particular eco-system and now that ecosystem has deal breakers AND make it cumbersome and difficult to migrate away.

An artist has "source" files just the same as developers. They are the project files that have all of the raw layers and assets that would allow tweaks and revisions to be made.

For some artists, this can even make contracts difficult. I own a business, outsourced the creation of our logo to a local artist. Years down the road, if I wanted to ask her to send me the file in a different format, or make tweaks etc. she may charge me money for that, but it is totally on the table.

Imagine one day that happens and she has to tell me "Sorry, due to vendor lock-in and bullshit I had to switch to a different program and no longer have access to all of the project files that went into creating your logo."

[t-writescode]

What client-side features do you use that you think will get ripped out and paywalled from an old version?

[gspencley]

Thyat's a fair question and the honest answer is I don't know and I'd have to sift through the feature comparison chart to see if there's anything I actively use today with my paid license that is moving to a Canva Premium subscription.

My real point is that Affinity had two selling points that "converted me:"

- Artist word of mouth. Photo & Design were becoming popular as an alternative to Photoshop & Illustrator so when artists started recommending it as an alternative I listened and checked them out.

- Perpetual license / no subscription model. That was THE NUMBER ONE SELLING POINT that got me on board as a customer. The second I even need to login to an account to be able to use the thing I paid a one time fee for, it's going to rub me the wrong way. It feels like a bait and switch.

[t-writescode]

Do you find CD-Keys that round-trip one time, ever to be a violation of a perpetual license? That’s effectively what “login to an account” means - especially if it works offline forever, afterward. (I haven’t checked if it does, in this case)

[gspencley]

If it's a one-time license validation, no. That's fine. If it's "login every time to be able to use the app" then that is something that, while is not necessarily a deal breaker in all cases, really annoys me.