[ActorNightly]

You don't need press for everyone to see that China is straight killing it in almost every sector. Manufacturing, compute, you name it. Sure, they aren't without problems.

And as for free press, look at where freedom of press took United States. You have companies like Fox news that "aren't actually news, just entertainment", who blatantly lie about election fraud. You have podcasters like Joe Rogan who are at the same time "just bullshitting", while also pushing ideological narratives. And most republicans still believe election was stolen in 2024.

And overall, the party that was all about free speech, free trade, and small federal government power is pretty much doing the exact opposite in every single aspect, and people voted for them.

Im glad China has reigns on all of that. It allows them to pass laws like this https://www.cnbctv18.com/world/chinas-new-influencer-law-wan...

And yes, from a pure statistical standpoint, having centralized power isn't optimal since you don't want someone crazy having lots of centralized power, but at the same time, you also don't want what US has, where on the average 7/10 people simply just don't give a fuck about US being destroyed financially and socially.

[refurb]

This is a wild comment.

It claims free speech is being taken away, then gets upset people use it (Fox News).

Then it celebrates a law that actually curtails free speech.

[hollywood_court]

What's wilder is the fact that my generation was told that rock music, rap music, video games, etc would be lead to the decline of our society. But it turns out that Fox News was far more destructive than all of those things combined.

In the US, organized religion and Fox News are the two most destructive forces in our society.

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If your theory was logically sound it would be interesting to hear more.

[ActorNightly]

>Then it celebrates a law that actually curtails free speech.

Yes. There are already laws that curtail free speech - i.e yelling fire in a crowded theater as the popular example. Its not hard to extend this to the act of lying about information on air.

The optimal solution is that the government should have the power to enforce a ban on certain individuals on social media, which should be done through a court procedure where facts are presented and if the person is deemed to be spreading misinformation, the ban applies.

And the famous right wing argument of "don't give government power because it will use it to oppress you" doesn't work anymore.

[refurb]

Yelling fire in a crowded theatre actually isn’t illegal.

And your idea of court ordered ban on speech? What is a good example? That Covid absolutely 100% didn’t originate from a lab in China? How about the fact that Covid vaccines stop transmission of the virus?

Both of those were actually banned on major social media sites, then turned out to be true.

So what you’re suggesting is banning speech that isn’t untrue. Just inconvenient to those in power.

Sounds horrible.

[ActorNightly]

>Yelling fire in a crowded theatre actually isn’t illegal.

The act of it is not, but you can be charged with other things like inciting panic, and so on, especially if someone gets hurt.

Same laws would apply to broadcasting.

>And your idea of court ordered ban on speech? What is a good example?

* Saying that vaccines are causing mass issues, and government is hiding it.

* Lying about what officials said in relation to vaccine. Nobody said that vaccine stop transmission or that vaccines even mean you don't get covid. The whole goal of mandates was to overall reduce the risk of the complications, which were the primary cause of death.

* Claiming that MRNA is untested, or the whole vaccine is untested or can alter the genes

E.t.c and so on

Discussion should not be banned. You can talk about available evidence. You can talk about things that are unclear. But when you straight up lie to promote a political narrative and make stuff up, that should be prosecutable. All of this is easily discoverable in courts.