[dlubarov]

> if the IDF didn't directly censor all domestic reporting and investigations

This just seems like another double standard. What modern military doesn't censor reporting during a war in its own territory?

> An honest postmortum

Israel and the US settled the matter (with the help of substantial reparations) and went on to become allies. Why would they bother trying to convince anyone else?

And what would the convincing postmortum you're expecting look like? Some kind of third-party investigation? Can you name any military that willingly subjects itself to such investigations?

[bigyabai]

> What modern military doesn't censor reporting during a war in its own territory?

The ones willing to defer to an ICJ investigation? Hell, an IAEA inspection?

Both Dimona and the Liberty were critically reliant on America's infinite tolerance for Israeli transgression. Kennedy's stance towards Israel could have only convinced Johnson that resistance was futile, there's no way he could raise a finger if he did suspect foul play. The two nations were motley and often disagreeing partners united by a desire to mete out territory of neighboring petrostates. If a closed-door meeting ever decided that secrecy was the cost of keeping oil prices low, not a single American president would put their name on the line to speak up about it.

Not a damning accusation, sure. But it's also the same thing many Americans wondered in 1967.

[dlubarov]

> The ones willing to defer to an ICJ investigation?

What state has ever consented to an ICJ investigation that was focused on interrogating its military command or other sensitive military assets?

> Hell, an IAEA inspection?

If a state is an IAEA member, their nuclear program is (ostensibly) not a military program, so there should be no military secrets at risk.

> America's infinite tolerance for Israeli transgression

Even if we accept the extraordinary claim that the US would have tolerated what it knew was an intentional attack on an expensive ship, at best that means that we can't infer anything from the US reaction. There are plenty of other reasons to doubt that the attack was intentional. I.e. it's extremely difficult to imagine any risk-benefit analysis under which it would make sense for Israel to suddenly attack a neutral superpower in the middle of a war for its survival.

[bigyabai]

> There are plenty of other reasons to doubt that the attack was intentional

I don't buy them, especially given Israel's 1967 political situation. Fun discussion though, thanks for entertaining it!

[mikkupikku]

You're putting it gently. They killed him for insisting on inspections of Dimona.