[whstl]

That's the crazy thing.

Most AWS-only Ops engineers I know are making bank and in high demand, and Ops teams are always HUGE in terms of headcount outside of startups.

The "AWS is cheaper" thing is the biggest grift in our industry.

[haik90]

I think this is driven by the market itself and the way cloud promotes their product.

After fully in cloud for sometimes, we’re moving to hybrid solutions. The upper management happy with costs and the cloud engineer had new toy's

[devnullbrain]

1. large, homogenous domain where the budget for your department is large

2. niche, bespoke domain primarily occupied by companies looking to cut costs

[hedora]

I wonder how vibe coding will impact this.

You can easily get your service up by asking claude code or whatever to just do it

It produces aws yaml that’s better than many devops people I’ve worked with. In other words, it absolutely should not be trusted with trivial tasks, but you could easily blow $100K’s per year for worse.

[throwforfeds]

I've been contemplating this a lot lately, as I just did code review on a system that was moving all the AWS infrastructure into CDK, and it was very clear the person doing it was using an LLM which created a really complicated, over engineered solution to everything. I basically rewrote the entire thing (still pairing with Claude), and it's now much simpler and easier to follow.

So I think for developers that have deep experience with systems LLMs are great -- I did a huge migration in a few weeks that probably would have taken many months or even half a year before. But I worry that people that don't really know what's going on will end up with a horrible mess of infra code.

[whstl]

To me it's clear that most Ops engineers are vibe coding their scripts/yamls today.

The time difference between having a script ready has decreased dramatically in the last 3 years. The amount of problems when deploying the first time has also increased in the same period.

The difference between the ones who actually know what they're doing and the ones who don't is whether they will refactor and test.