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by yehat 235 days ago
Because there're no russian developers almost everywhere?
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There's a difference between having Russian devs and being made by a Russian company that supports war.

OnlyOffice is made by a Russian company that doesn't condemn war of aggression that Russia wages against Ukraine.

https://old.reddit.com/r/BuyFromEU/comments/1j7zlf2/onlyoffi...

Remember that when the ICC issued a warrant for Netanyahu, Microsoft blocked Karim Khan's e-mail account: <https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/technology/tech-news/whe...>
Yes. Another good reason to decouple from American tech giants.
Did you boycott all the American companies that didn't condemn the war of aggression against Iraq?
Is it Americans who actively rape, kill and destroy Ukrainians right now?
No.
Thank God all other non-Russian companies not only condemn various atrocities around the globe but even support the affected countries being liberated by developing the high-tech armies of the good guys, right?!
* Company is Russian

* Doesn't condemn war (understandable in their position)

* Has dev team in Russia

* Pays taxes to Russia, which directly fuel war

* Does not support UAF or donate to Ukraine (also understandable)

* Keeps selling their software in Russia, which might have links to military and administration

Am I missing something here?

> Am I missing something here?

The fact that all of the above is being presented as an exclusively Russian strategy. When almost all companies mentioned on this website are proudly and directly tied to non-Russian war industries. The tendency to omit pointing out non-Russian examples almost always indicates endorsement of their actions.

And let me beat you to this that I condemn all offensive war industries no matter the country of origin. Unlike those who believe it is ok to side with one and not the other even if they do the exact same.

> The fact that all of the above is being presented as an exclusively Russian strategy.

Where did I ever present those as exclusively Russian strategy?

> When almost all companies mentioned on this website are proudly and directly tied to non-Russian war industries.

So?

If you interact with American businesses, use American technology or pay taxes to any Western government, you're indirectly funding genocide, slavery, wanton environmental destruction and countless other crimes by the US, its allies and corporations.

There is no ethical consumption under capitalism, none of our hands are clean. We all deal with our complicity in various ways, and draw our lines in the sand where we will, but at the end of the day survival in this world forces us all to be hypocrites.

This is quite a stretch of mental gymnastics from the initial point, drawing a blatantly false equivalency between the consumer and the producer as an at attempt to derail and minimize the latter's direct contribution to the forced unethical consumption. And it's an especially absurd argument since it's impossible to ethically consume or even survive with such owners of the means of production.

And this whole falsely applied narrative is unironically a very frequent laundering tactic of their proponents.

And btw I don't even think most are really willing to accept the accusations of the American companies, as they've been told for centuries that these are the good guys.

Do other Russian developers also work for a company sanctioned by the EU?