[beyondCritics]

For the informed nerd (e.g. read Elizondo first or Greer, Bledsoe) it should by now be established, that we have a serious UAP problem. Hence it's a good thing that all the incidents that were previously ridiculed and downplayed are now one by one reconsidered.

[saaaaaam]

I didn’t know who Elizondo is. I just read a little. It appears he’s been pretty comprehensively debunked?

By serious UAP problem did you mean problem with people claiming everything is a UAP, or did you mean problem in the sense of “there are lots of UAPs and we don’t know why”?

[Marshferm]

The transition from burning bush to UFO to UAP...

I wonder of we modernized our relationship to phenomena in technology and shift from spectral beings to extraterrestrial beings as a built-in problem of explanations, based in some simplistic reliance of cause and effect.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2352250X2...

[datavirtue]

Yes, people used to see fairies a lot.

[montjoy]

There are probably 1000s of reports of from people across the globe that are seeing very similar things that remain unexplained. If the evidence went to a courtroom, I think certain UAP “cases” would pass have a positive “verdict” based on overwhelming circumstantial evidence. However, science has a higher bar (as it should) so when we ask our experts what’s happening they have to say “no evidence” or else lose their credibility.

[Marshferm]

The debunking of each case of UAP I've seen involves a mixture of science and folk science. They're fairly easily debunked if your persepctive changes.

[montjoy]

Some, yes. If you’re genuinely curious I’d invite you to read project blue book or read through nuforc reports.

But I get it. If I hadn’t heard some things first hand from credible witnesses I’d be more skeptical too.

[beyondCritics]

For the records: I'm taking it very seriously and had this book in mind: Elizondo, L. (2024). Imminent: Inside the Pentagon's hunt for UFOs. William Morrow. The tone is very dark though.

[Marshferm]

https://www.metabunk.org/threads/errors-in-luis-elizondos-uf...