[alterom]

>It would be possible to be infinitely arbitrary to the point of “AGI” never being reachable by some yard sticks while still performing most viable labor.

"Most viable labor" involves getting things from one place to another, and that's not even the hard part of it.

In any case, any sane definition of general AI would entail things that people can generally do.

Like driving.

>That is stupid

That's just, like, your opinion, man.

[whynotminot]

I had a friend who had his Tesla drive him from his driveway in another city 3+ hrs away to my driveway with no intervention.

I feel like everyone’s opinion on how self-driving is going is still rooted in 2018 or something and no one has updated.

[Der_Einzige]

Rest assured, your friends driving was the same quality as the average drunk grandma on the road if they were exclusively using Tesla's "FSD" with no intervention for hours. It drives so piss poorly that I have to frequently intervene even on the latest beta software. If I lived in a shoot happy state like Texas I'm sure that a road rager would have put a bullet hole somewhere in my Tesla by now if I kept driving like that.

There's a difference between "I survived" and "I drive anywhere close to the quality of the average American" - a low bar and one that still is not met by Tesla FSD.

[alterom]

Yeah, and let's not forget that "I drive like a mildly blind idiot" is only a viable (literally) choice when everyone else doesn't do that and compensates for your idiocy.

[alterom]

>I had a friend who had his Tesla drive him from his driveway in another city 3+ hrs away to my driveway with no intervention.

I had anecdata that was data, and it said that full-self-driving is wishful thinking.

We cool now?

[whynotminot]

Good luck on your journey. I think the world is going to surprise you, and you’d be better for opening your eyes a little wider.

[alterom]

You're absolutely right.

The world never ceases to surprise me with its stupidity.

Thanks for your contribution.

[chasd00]

ok but have you asked your Tesla to write you a mobile app? AGI would be able to do both. (the self-driving thing is just an example of something AGI would be able to do but an LLM can't)