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by respondo2134 226 days ago
it's notable that there is no talk about defining what exactly AGI is - or even spelling out the three letter acronym - because that doesn't serve his narative. He wants the general public to equate human intelligence with current OpenAI, not ask what does this mean or how would we know. He's selling another type of hammer that's proving useful in some situations but presenting it as the last universal tool anyone will ever need.
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cogman10 226 days ago
And because it's become apparent that LLMs aren't converging on what's traditionally been understood as AGI.

The promise of AGI is that you could prompt the LLM "Prove that the Riemann Hypothesis is either true or false" and the LLM would generate a valid mathematical proof. However, if you throw it into ChatGPT what you actually get is "Nobody else has solved this proof yet and I can't either."

And that's the issue. These LLMs aren't capable of reason, only regurgitation. And they aren't moving towards reason.

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dagss 226 days ago
When I ask Claude to debug something it goes through more or less the same steps I would have done to fine the bug. Add some logging, run tests, try an hypothesis...

Until LLMs got popular, we would have called that reasoning skills. Not surpassing humans but better than many humans within a small context.

I don't mean that I have a higher opinion about LLM intelligence than you do, but perhaps I have a lower opinion on what human intelligence is. How many do much more than regurgitate, tweak? Science has taken hundreds of years to develop.

The real question is: When do knowledge workers loose their jobs. That is close enough for "AGI" in its consequences for society, Riemann hypothesis or not.

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joomla199 226 days ago
Did you read the whole thread and all of your own comment each time you had to type another half-word? If not, I’m afraid your first statement doesn’t hold.
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parliament32 226 days ago
AGI is pretty clearly defined here: https://openai.com/charter/

> OpenAI’s mission is to ensure that artificial general intelligence (AGI)—by which we mean highly autonomous systems that outperform humans at most economically valuable work—benefits all of humanity.

So, can you (and everyone you know) be replaced at work by a subscription yet? If not, it's not AGI I guess.

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