[xmprt]

> having developed with it for a decade now

I think this is the reason why React feels normal to you. But as someone coming into it fresh, React felt like there were always 4 different ways to do the same thing and 3 of them are wrong because they built a new API/there are more idiomatic ways to accomplish the same thing now. If you have a decade of experience, then you probably do most things the right/obvious way so don't even notice all the incorrect ways/footguns that React gives you.

[fud101]

If you're coming into it in 2025, it's even simpler. Just ignore the SSR stuff which Vercel are pushing and you're good. A lot of the path has been smoothed out over the years to make it an ideal place to start today.

[brazukadev]

> If you're coming into it in 2025, it's even simpler. Just ignore the

official documentation, otherwise you'll be creating a NextJS app and get recommended to deploy to Vercel.

[nawgz]

You claim that React offers me multiple incorrect ways/footguns to do things, but you can't list a single meaningful API surface change besides Hooks when that was the point of my comment?

Saying React is a "bloated monster" and then not being able to provide a single example of ways it has bloated is a joke. The article we're looking at shows that the bundle size can be a bit bigger but the speed to render is equivalent to all these other frameworks.

If you really love minimal bundle sizes, go off, but bundle size is not how I would define bloat in a framework