[diordiderot]

yeah the 10x was just myocarditis.

I've discounted the other effects as they were generally associated with comorbidities (lung scaring was a % of hospitalized people).

I've also discounted long-covid because of comorbidities, self-reporting bias, nocebo effective, and depression/anxiety overlap. Yes I know its still real, but the true rates are difficult to know.

Edit: I should have factored clotting as well

[uecker]

Myocarditis from the is usually mild while myocarditis from COVID may have worse outcomes. And for myocarditis, the 10x would apply only for a specific age group and males, and not overall.

[lucyjojo]

friend of mine (early 20s) got his atp production severely damaged (not annihilated but way less than normal).

he can't really use stairs, or walk a long time, etc. he sleeps a lot, and basically can't be active for a long time anymore. his reaction time also worsened apparently (used to be ridiculously fast).

hospital folks (in 2 different countries) directly linked it to the vaccine.

so yeah it's rare but it can get really bad...

[uecker]

I wonder why they blamed the vaccine?

[lucyjojo]

unfortunately i don't know.