[lapcat]

> Much like obesity is primarily driven by abundance of calories, another fight we won with our natural environment. The highly processed foods and marketing are just barely making a dent at the edge, and are largely a zero-sum game between food manufacturers.

Who is getting obese from fresh fruit and vegetables, whole grains, and the like?

People will eat a whole bag of salted potato chips or a whole container of ice cream in a sitting, but who eats a whole bag of oranges in a sitting?

[orwin]

I used to drink orange juice. Around 2 liter a day. I've learned since that it was almost as bad as drinking 2 liter of non caffeinated soda.

[lapcat]

It should be needless to say that oranges are more than just juice.

[orwin]

Yes, something i didn't know whan i was 18. It's not easy to know what to eat when you're young, and to pick up bad habits. Then when overeating destroyed your hormonal balance (insulin, ghrelin are appetite regulating hormones that which imbalance can make a tiny bit of hunger massive and painfull), it's extremely hard to adopt "normal" eating habits without a lot of stability in your life.

[SoftTalker]

Right and people don't stop and think that a 16oz glass of orange juice is like 6 oranges worth. An orange is fine. 6 at a time is ridiculous.

[none2585]

I think that's precisely the point. Junk food is _engineered_ to be irresistible.

[lapcat]

It seems like the person I quoted was denying a major role for junk food, though.

[ethanpailes]

I will absolutely eat a whole bag of oranges in a sitting.

[lapcat]

Are you obese?

I suppose that for any given action, there's likely always someone who will do it, but in any case a bag of oranges has significantly different nutritional properties than a bag of chips. How many oranges are we talking about, and what size oranges?

[throaway180]

Oranges are mostly water...I could definitely eat 4 or 5 in one sitting, and I'm not obese.

[lapcat]

> I could definitely eat 4 or 5 in one sitting

I could too... if I wanted to. For me at least, oranges are not the type of food that inspires me to binge. Do you seriously not understand why people tend to binge on certain foods and not on others? In any case, 5 oranges is at most maybe 400 calories, very low fat and sodium.

> I'm not obese.

Which is my original point: "Who is getting obese from fresh fruit"

Compared to our hunter-gatherer ancestors, we have a practically unlimited supply of fruit, but I don't think thats really the problem.