[tgma]

> literally doesn't matter to them if X bankrupts them

If that were true, you'd not see economy as the top or one of the top issues. Perhaps some marginal short term economical concerns can be offset by personality/perceived cultural improvements, but not to the point of bankruptcy or even close.

"It's the economy, stupid" was Clinton's slogan after all.

[hackyhacky]

> If that were true, you'd not see economy as the top or one of the top issues.

Polls also show that Republicans rate economic conditions as positive when there's a Republican in office, and negative when there's a Democrat in office regardless of the actual state of the economy. (The effect is much weaker among Democrats.)

This means that people care about the economy, but are terrible at knowing whether the economy is actually doing well or not, and certainly not educated enough to understand the impact that particular policies have on the economy.

The conclusion is that when there's a Democrat in office, Republicans are told by the Republican news media that the economy is bad; and when there's a Republican in office, Republicans are told by the Republican news media that the economy is good.

Find a conservative-leaning group on Facebook or reddit and see the resistance you get when you try to explain that Trump's tariffs are an inflationary tax on Americans. Political opinions have no bearing on reality, especially in the context of economic policy.

[tgma]

Doesn’t matter what they think about the economy at large in abstract terms; sure they may be right or wrong about that, but I definitely question all those who say people don’t know how they are supposed to feel about their individual economic condition. This is straight from central planning and social engineering BS. I would not underestimate human instinct.

[judahmeek]

> Doesn’t matter what they think about the economy at large in abstract terms;

It totally does. If they say what they care most about is the economy, but they interpret the economy through the lens of whether their political party is in power, then their actions will be radically different than a theoretically objective voter.

If voters say that their top concern is X, but they act like they are willing to compromise on X for the sake of Y, then we should interpret that as Y actually being their top priority.

[tgma]

I think you are misinterpreting what the voters mean by "economy." It refers to the incomes and expenses and economic opportunities of themselves and their family and friends. It does not mean macroeconomic metrics. I do not believe an individual no matter how dumb can be that easily fooled on those micro metrics; not in the short to medium term.

[hackyhacky]

If your claim were true, the polls would show that Americans' view of the economy is broadly aligned and non-partisan: when inflation goes up, it goes up for everyone. But that's not what polls show. When people are asked about "the economy," the repeat what they've been told, not what they've experienced. Polls repeatedly show a strong partisan bias in evaluating the economy, inflation, and unemployment (as well as crime and other factors). Are you telling me that Republicans actually experience a different economy than Democrats, or should we just go with the obvious conclusion?

[1] https://www.sca.isr.umich.edu/files/partisaneconomy202504.pd...

[2] https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S030439322...

[3] https://www.politico.com/newsletters/morning-money/2025/01/3...

[tgma]

Yes, it might be very well be true that predominantly Republican population experience economy differently than the average Democrat population. They do different jobs, live in different geographic locations with varying density and urbanization and have different employment rates/seasonality. Inflation is not a single number and depending on what your life looks like may impact you differently.

P.S. nothing about your conclusion is obvious. Everything cited seems to be referring to one specific period (COVID/Biden era inflation) with no historical analysis, in which case the parties in charge had every attempt to portray their loss as "economy was good but perceived by idiots who didn't know better" so I'll take the analyses with a grain of salt from clearly partisan hacks.

Joanne Hsu, UMich: https://www.fec.gov/data/receipts/individual-contributions/?... and Politico is parroting the research.