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by lifeisstillgood
5014 days ago
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The essence of the (flawed) argument Jacques is making is in his passport section I need permission from my government if I want to leave
the country.
Oddly, that's not true. A passport is necessary to get into a country, not leave one. The distinction is subtle but important. You can if you wish as an adult, leave the country you are in, and if they will let you in, enter another with a different set of obligations. At worst you can just bob around the Atlantic in a bath tub for a bit.The whole set of complaints boil down to, are there other countries which have a better setup than the country I am in? Can I go now? The answer for anyone in the West is of course, not such that you would notice. And yes, no-one is stopping you. (But I would not recommend the bathtub option) Edit: I just realised that it could read as "well if you dont like it F off." It honestly was not meant like that - but its hard to reword the whole comment now. |
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Not true for me, at least. I live in Poland, which means I get passport-free travel (and ID-card free, for that matter) within the EU Schengen Area, but not when visiting my home country, the UK, since it's outside the Schengen area.
To visit the UK, I have to go via the scary ladies and gentlemen in glass booths with big guns strapped to their sides and show my passport (or ID card if I had one). I've travelled a few times to other countries outside the Schengen area, and each time the only way to get to the gate is via these booths. I'm pretty certain that there's no opt-out.
Poland's not alone in this; plenty of countries check your passport on departure. Last one I remember is Turkey, pretty sure when I was in India and Tunisia similar happened.