[noam_k]

That would be cool.

I read somewhere that a black hole with the mass of the moon will absorb about as much cosmic radiation as it emits Hawking radiation. This is a fine line between "the black hole disappears before we can examine it" and "oops, we got eaten by a black hole".

[antonvs]

If it's in a stable orbit in the solar system, it wouldn't be able to "eat" us. Black holes gravitate exactly the same as any other mass, so it would have the same gravitational effect on Earth as any object if the same mass.

What makes black holes special is that you can get much close to their center of mass than you can with normal objects. When you're that close - inside the radius that a normal density object of that mass would have - then you experience gravity at a much higher strength than normal.

Put another way, even if our Moon was a black hole with the same mass, very little would change except that it would no longer reflect sunlight. Ocean tides on Earth would remain the same. You wouldn't want to try to land on it though...

[akomtu]

There was a movie where Moon was a hi-tech 'megastructure' with a white dwarf inside. I wonder if it would be theoretically possible to set up such a mini-dyson sphere around a mini-blackhole.

[antonvs]

A black hole, or neutron star, would make much more sense in that scenario than a white dwarf.

A white dwarf smaller than the moon seems unlikely, if not impossible. If it were that small, unless it was in the (fast) process of collapsing to a neutron star, it wouldn't have enough mass to remain that compact.

A neutron star or black hole would work fine, because both can easily have radii much smaller than the Moon's.

Here's an article about that - https://www.fandom.com/articles/moonfall-real-life-astrophys... :

> “There are just so many things wrong with [the idea of a white dwarf inside the moon],” says Romer. “Now, a white dwarf is a very compact object. But, you know — people have heard of neutron stars — neutron stars are ultra-compact objects, they’re a few tens of kilometres across. White dwarfs are actually about the size of a normal star.”

You can come up with scenarios where white dwarfs are much smaller than a star, but smaller than the Moon is iffy at best.

As for the Dyson sphere idea, the biggest problem with it in this scaled-down scenario is stability. You can't exactly support it with struts, or something.

On that subject, I highly recommend the video "dyson spheres are a joke": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fLzEX1TPBFM , by astrophysicist Angela Collier. But you need to either watch all 53 minutes, or skip to near the end, to find out just how literal the title is.

[api]

If you set it up at the right radius it would have 1g gravity at the surface, like a little mini-world. It wouldn't be able to hold an atmosphere though, so it would have to have pressurized buildings on it.

[throwaway290]

Somebody write a sci fi with this please, just make sure to describe how trash disposal works

[antonvs]

If you're interested in black holes and trash disposal, check out the 1978 short story, "The Nothing Spot": https://vintage.failed-dam.org/nothing.htm

[MomsAVoxell]

Hey, its not like an analog of "Yeah, lets just throw some more mass at the newly-forming black hole in our neighbourhood", said every human that has ever thrown things into the fire, forever ..

[api]

Black holes aren't cosmic vacuum cleaners. They're just super super super compact objects.

I've actually posted this a few times:

If you suddenly transformed the Moon into a black hole of the same mass, it would continue to orbit the Earth in the same spot. It wouldn't suck up the Earth or anything. The ocean tides would continue as normal under the influence of the black-hole-moon's gravity, which would be the same if it was orbiting at the same distance. You wouldn't see a moon in the sky, but if you focused a good telescope on where it was you'd see gravitational lensing. It would be a little smaller than a BB.

[gus_massa]

Sorry, but I have to link the "Hole Lotta Trouble" episode of Pocoyo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HL_0OL7vZ44

[MomsAVoxell]

Yes, you really do.