[nawgz]

Please, bundling React with Next is completely foolish. React is open, battle-hardened, type safe, and well-documented, while Next is... a vendor lock-in trojan horse targeting low-knowledge developers with concepts that seem beginner-friendly.

I can understand making legit criticisms of React, no doubt the hooks transition had some issues and the library has a high level of complexity without a clear winner in the state management domain, but pretending React is peddling shit like "use workflow" is frankly low effort.

[fullstackchris]

Just shows you how absolutely little people know about the web ecosystem - most people heard something once or twice from someone else and just assume its true - to make matters worse, you have the typical HN "vanilla html and js only!!!" bandwagon which, if you try to use for any serious web application will only lead you down a path of much pain and suffering. I've commented many times in many other threads that I just don't get it; I probably never will.

[brazukadev]

Mate, don't get mad at us just because you can't code without a framework.

React was created to make low skilled people capable of shipping low quality code. If that is the only thing you can do, I'd be careful about calling yourself fullstackchris

[frankdvn]

Mate, real programmers use assembly.