[mort96]

My conclusion remains that the language is fractured by the optional GC and that its adoption was severely hampered by the proprietary toolchain. Nothing you have said meaningfully challenges that in my opinion, and many things you've said supports it. I don't think anything I've said is misleading.

[bw86]

Rust is fractured by the optional async-ness of libraries. And all languages are fractured by GPL vs non-GPL libraries.

You have a point, but it is not worth the drama. D's biggest problem comes from the strong opinions of people that have not tried using it.

[Kapendev]

> language is fractured by the optional GC

That's an interesting fantasy you have constructed. You should try listening to the people who actually use it.

[mort96]

I did, I listened to sfpotter. From their description, it's the source of a great deal of animosity within the D community.

[sfpotter]

Well, no, it isn't. There's some frustration. But mostly what I've seen is a lot of lengthy conversations with a lot of give and take. There's a small number of loud people who complain intensely, but there are also people who are against the GC who write lots of libraries that avoid it and even push the language in a healthy direction. If these people hadn't argued so strenuously against the GC, I doubt Phobos would have started moving in the direction of using the GC less and less. This is actually the sign of a healthy community.