[HDThoreaun]

> I could not tolerate the direction the democrats were wanting to go as it seemed an inevitable path to civil war.

Trumps action with ICE will lead to waco situations. Undocumented immigrants can obtain guns in this country and will not continue to go quietly into the night. Seems to me that his actions are far more likely to lead to civil war

[actionfromafar]

I think a more likely scenario is that a citizen gets tired of being rounded up every other weekend or shaken down for ICE protection money and decides to put a stop to it, one way or another. And it would in many cases be legal too, because those iceholes don't identify themselves.

[tastyfreeze]

If somebody that is here illegally picks up a gun and fights citizens or government they are a foreign combatant on US soil. Fighting them is not civil war it is national defense and is the whole reason the federal government was established.

Now, if you are talking about citizens supporting an invasion against those that oppose it that is civil war. I agree that is a none zero possibility. However, telling citizens to get fucked while taking their money and giving it to non citizens, to me, was certain to lead to violent conflict between citizens.

[ThrowMeAway1618]

>However, telling citizens to get fucked while taking their money and giving it to non citizens, to me, was certain to lead to violent conflict between citizens.

Whose money? Being given to which non-citizens?

Seriously. Be specific here. the words you used are all in English and are even fairly grammatical. But they don't model reality.

Undocumented folks, by virtue of being undocumented, are ineligible for public assistance of any kind, pretty much everywhere in the US.

What's more, in order to work, they need to provide an SSN and they need to use someone else's because they can't get their own -- because they're undocumented. But they and their employer must each still pay Social Security and Medicare taxes which pay for those programs -- but since they're undocumented, they'll never collect any of the money they paid into those programs in taxes.

So I ask again, specifically, what taxpayer money is being paid to which non-citizens? Please be specific here.

[newfriend]

Illegal aliens are eligible for the following benefits:

Federal Benefits

* Emergency medical care

* School meals

* K-12 education

* WIC nutrition program

California State Benefits

* Full-scope Medi-Cal

* Cash assistance (CAPI)

* In-state college tuition

* Disability and Family Leave

[standardly]

How much money out of your pocket went to school meals?

Hint, not even 50 cents of your paycheck went to feeding poor kids. You are an idealogue and nothing more

[jakelazaroff]

FYI emergency medical care is not a federal benefit. You and your health insurance provider are on the hook for whatever it costs.