[jimbo808]

Can you quote a any specific portion of my comment from which you inferred anger?

Also, do you not understand that reducing an American person’s wages, by having a Honduran guy come into the country and do his job for half the price, then use that to compete with him for an apartment, increasing his cost of living, and reducing the money Big Corp, Inc has to spend on labor, is a direct transfer of wealth out of your pocket, and into their pockets. It’s one of many ways rampant immigration is a war on the middle class, and yes, it is Big Corp, Inc, and the institutions that own it, who are doing this. I am not angry at the Honduran. I am critical of the people who gaslight us into thinking that allowing him and millions like him to come here and work for less money than their American counterparts, is somehow good for us.

People will say Americans don’t want those jobs. But here’s the rub - Americans did want those jobs, back when they paid enough to support a family. Americans also do want trucking jobs, and tech jobs, and medical jobs, and all jobs. And we’re forced to do them for a vanishingly small wage, while we watch our futures disappear, and the hope of ever securing financial security disappears.

[marcuskane2]

> by having a Honduran guy come into the country and do his job for half the price, then use that to compete with him for an apartment, increasing his cost of living

So the immigrants are making half the income, but also paying more for rent? So your thesis rests on the notion that the Honduran is paying like 80% of his income in rent?

Feels... unlikely.

[jimbo808]

This is pretty straightforward economics. The Honduran guy doesn’t need to compete directly with him for housing to contribute to an overall increase in the cost of housing. I assume you are an adult, and since you’re on Hacker News, you’re probably an educated one. It’s crazy to me that I would have to explain such a basic economic concept to an educated adult.

[marcuskane2]

It's crazy to me that you're still blaming the poorest, most exploited, least powerful person in the economy for the problems instead of the people actually responsible.

Since you moved the goalposts after I pointed out the absurdity of suggesting that the underpaid Honduran laborer is also bidding up the price of housing to a broader, indirect impact, I'll go ahead and point out that your argument still fails there. That low-cost labor you're complaining about? That makes construction of housing less expensive. The migrants are building more houses than they're occupying.

Be mad at the top 1%. Be mad at the people who inherited land, wealth and power. Be mad at the people raising your rent and preventing people from building more housing. But don't be mad at some guy just trying to make an honest living doing hard work to stay fed and sheltered because he wasn't born as lucky as you.

[brazukadev]

They are mad at the top 1% using the poorest, that is clear from their posts.

> Be mad at the top 1%. Be mad at the people who inherited land, wealth and power.

Guess who are the employers? Not sure what's the point in distorting his opinion to say exactly the same thing he is saying.