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by dangus 233 days ago
You did not answer my question about fairness to workers, and in that lack of answer I have my answer: you are anti-worker and prefer a system that rewards people who are already wealthy even more than they are rewarded now.

When you see someone like Jeff Bezos paying an effective tax rate of 12% you want that rate to be zero, while the median worker is getting a tax hike paying 50% ($600 per week is about half the median weekly individual income).

You’ve also made the tax so flat that it disregards regional economic differences. If you live in Alabama you’re paying a wildly higher tax rate than if you live in California. (You gave the example of $600 rather than a percent, please correct if you meant something else)

You call it an income-driven economy but only the income of the people doing labor is taxed.

If anything you’re doubling down on the most flawed aspects of our current system, introducing insane new ones, and possibly the most annoying bit is you seem to have zero interest in making even the most half-hearted elevator pitch as to how this could possibly make life better for the 99%.

2 comments

Dangus, the plan helps workers by removing the taxes from being pulled from their check because Federal taxes are like 50 percent and I’m a worker at work typing this while juggling boxes so I that’s why I came here but take this example if a person or company just made 1 billion dollars and if flipped means 9 billion which means 4.5 billion of that goes to fix the economy while rewarding workers to own houses, build families, and investing so money works for them and not getting the other end of the stick if you know what I mean!
I think what you need to do if you hope to facilitate a discussion is get into the nitty gritty detail of exactly what events cause this capital flipping mechanism to happen. An individual getting a paycheck? A business making a profit (income minus expenses)? An asset appreciating and/or being liquidated? Who is paying and what events make them pay? What happens with part time work, self-employment, debt/loans, interest, rental income, depreciation, appreciation, etc.

For now, the more answers I get the hazier it is. I still don’t understand if this is payroll based.

I am skeptical at the idea this frees up the worker especially due to its “flat” nature, but I don’t really have enough information until you hash this out better.

The last thing I’ll point out is that federal taxes are NOT 50% as you describe, nowhere close.

Thanks, I heading back to the lab and I’ll have a 30 second elevator speech ready! When you are dealing with people’s money then everything must be correct! Thanks for you input and I’ll start adjusting and ironing out the details!
Thanks for your passion! I will be releasing the full plan soon but I just wanted to know what everyone think but I understand if you don’t see metrics then you don’t know how to respond! So I understand the wtf thinking to is this post!