[Tepix]

> Law doesn't seek to punish but to rehabilitate.

That's unfortunately not universally true. This is most obvious when considering the death penalty.

Norway exemplifies a rehabilitative justice model and it is effective, evidenced by low recidivism rates.

[Teever]

A death penalty doesn't have to intrinsically be about punishment.

It can be about removing the threat that a person poses from society permanently.

It can be about making the victims feel a sense of relief and justice.

[bagels]

The point being made is that the death penalty does not serve a rehabilitation purpose for a pretty obvious reason.

[wisty]

Maybe Norway prisons are just really nasty. No drugs, no fights, no conflict with the wardens, just boredom and then solitary confinement if you do anything that's "not OK".

[NaomiLehman]

Very few first-world countries have death penalties?

[Tepix]

Very few countries in general.

[RestlessMind]

But most of the people live in countries with death penalties. All the top 6 countries by population have death penalty and only 4 out of biggest 17 countries do not have death penalty.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_by_country#...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_and_dependen...

[master-lincoln]

afaik only the USA and Japan

[Andrex]

And not all of the US, just a bit over half (27 states).

[sfdlkj3jk342a]

Singapore and China

[amiga386]

There are 53 states (out of 193 UN states + 2 observer states) that have not abolished, and continue to use the death penalty.

"First-world" is Cold War terminology meaning Western countries and their allies, as opposed to second-world Warsaw Pact states and their allies, versus third-world non-aligned states. This would include death penalty states like Pakistan and Iran, who at one point were British dominions.

If we instead mean "developed countries" (as defined by the IMF), then 4 out of 60 developed countries have not abolished the death penalty: they are the United States, Japan, Singapore and Taiwan.

The other 49 states continuing to use the death penalty (including China) are not considered "developed countries" by the IMF.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment_by_country

[zabzonk]

and thailand