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by HaZeust 241 days ago
Ok, name some goalposts that steelman the USSR's contributions to the space race.
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Sputnik was the first object to orbit the earth. It was the spark that lit the fire under the US space effort. It may not have been grand, but it was the first.

Yuri Gagarin was the first human in space, first to orbit the earth.

To minimize these achievements is like saying the Wright Brothers test was meaningless because it only lasted 12 seconds. In truth each "first" represents a milestone, each required substantial effort.

In more recent times Russia alone was capable of manned space flight (2011 to 2020).

To return to your question, the USSR was critical to the space race. You cannot gave a race with 1 entrant. Without USSR constantly being in the news doing things first, there would not have been a space race at all.

Indeed, by the time of JFK's speech there was not much to race for except the moon. Once the Soviets stopped the US stopped as well. It's taken the talk of a Chinese mission for the US to even bother.

Earth satellites are an enormously valuable use of space. But very unsexy. Trips to the moon have pretty much no value. But they make for good PR.

You are mixing up human space flight and going to the ISS.

Sure, for quite a while ISS depended on Russia for crew access, but China has been capable of human spaceflight since 1999, running many missions since & their own space station.

Yes, indeed.
First satellite, first lunar flyby, first heliocentric orbit, first lunar landing, first animals returned safely from orbit, first human space flight. Those are some pretty solid goals.
What's a natural goalpost for the first "Space race" ?

I submit that a good candidate is: Space. It's in the name. It's not "the Moon race".

You know, getting a person to space and back. Yuri Gagarin, USSR, first successful crewed spaceflight, 1961.

Or, first artificial satellite in space. Sputnik, USSR 1957

I respect the USA's contributions to the space race too, but also I am amused by the USA under JFK picking something left undone, declaring that that as the only victory condition, doing it and then claiming total victory and celebrating it ever since. Got to salvage national pride somehow. Does that "steelman" it?

USSR's ballistic missiles did celestial navigation before the invention of GPS.

Atlas V can leave the pad it sits on because of the Russian RD-180 engine it uses.