[ofrzeta]

Red Hat is offering OpenShift virtualization, which is Kubernetes with Kubevirt. So some people might just use Kubernetes with Kubevirt.

There's also Harvester "open source hyperconverged infrastructure" https://harvesterhci.io/

Or some Xen spinoff like https://xcp-ng.org/

Smaller shops are migrating to Proxmox.

[firesteelrain]

I don’t really consider OpenShift in the same category. VMWare and its enabling software such as vSphere and vCenter are in another category than OpenShift to the point that there is a symbiotic relationship between VMWare and Dell in the corporate/enterprise setting

[al_borland]

Red Hat has an implementation of OpenStack, which is more of a VMware replacement than OpenShift is.

[more_corn]

Do not ever use openshift

[rilindo]

Can you explain why I shouldn't use OpenShift?

[breakingcups]

I know they pulled a mini-Broadcom on us and sharply raised all our prices after our first two years of having our OpenShift clusters.

[esseph]

They have a dominant percentage of banking workloads at this point.

[bombcar]

This is damning with faint praise.

[cbluth]

I can confirm this, from my experience. Many organizations have foregone ms in lieu of redhat and oracle, and redhat is slowly injecting openshift where they can fit it.

[tuananh]

but it's alright. getting out of openshift is rather easy.

getting out of vmware is a different story.

[esseph]

> getting out of vmware is a different story

Not really, wasn't difficult