[SoftTalker]

Swiss cheese model of accident cause:

Hole #1 grandpa lets teenage grandson take cybertruck out for a night with friends

Hole #2 kid driver gets rip-roaring drunk

Hole #3 other kids get in the car with drunk driver

Hole #4 drunk kid drives cybertruck into a concrete wall

Hole #5 Tesla makes manual door releases hard to find.

All those thing lined up for those kids. Any one of them could have been a point where doing something different prevents this outcome.

[more_corn]

So yes. Manual door releases are hard to find in an emergency, trapping occupants so they die unnecessarily in burning vehicles.

Perhaps we should all acknowledge that part out loud and prioritize making the manual release easy to find when you’re clawing desperately at the door as you burn to death.

[Ekaros]

Surely with all that computing power you could have some sort of fire detector that forcibly opens the doors and disables the locking mechanism.

Actually I see little reason why unlocking doors and holding them unlocked should not be mandatory in crash. On average that must be the preferable outcome.

[salawat]

And coincidentally, only one of those is industrially mass produced warranting avoidance and remediation. Even if younglings being younglings, we shouldn't be making deathtrap vehicles optimized for incinerating occupants.

[SoftTalker]

Yeah I think it's a stupid design and it should not be permitted. There should always be an obvious and fairly standard way to open a car door from the inside.

But we have those rear seat "child safety" locks that could have had the same effect.

And you can't always prevent someone from doing something fatally stupid.

[quinndexter]

No you can't always prevent stupidity. But you can lessen the chances of any given stupidity necessarily being fatal.

[fuzzfactor]

Musk probably forgot that on a regular car, electric windows do not have a backup method to roll down, so whether or not this option is selected by a buyer, the primary door opening mechanism for everyday use has always been mechanical for a reason.

Then whether or not you select the additional option of electric door locks, the mechanical everyday handles remain the primary way each driver or passenger gets in and out most of the time.

So that type of familiarity could always be taken for granted, if someone has gotten in and out at least once, they have historically almost always been familiar with the mechanical handles to an extent just doing so.

And these type of victims had probably never had a chance to have even routinely gotten out of a Cybertruck for their first time, since the vehicle itself is still not very common.

For that reason the mechanical handles need to be not just the primary method of egress, but more prominent than average to make up the difference. Especially from the inside, and like the best-established motor companies have done, the electric locks are "simply" an augmented version of the underlying mechanical ones which remain in place and functional not just for nostalgic reasons.

Automatic windows and electric locks go together in ways that you really have to think about if you're going to match those who started decades earlier. Maybe that's why so many copied each other except for rare situations like this.

[petre]

Musk should probably be sentenced to exclusively drive a current generation Cybertruck (software too) for at least 30 years.

Good thing the vehicle is basically illegal in Europe.

[amenhotep]

2, 3 and 4 are very highly correlated, doesn't really fit the Swiss cheese model.