[k310]

I lived in the South Bay and East Bay a total of 30 years (wow)

I had jobs in Sunnyvale and Palo Alto and when I got a Berkeley job, moved to the east bay. During my stay there, I had jobs in Berkeley, San Francisco, and Pleasanton (Sun had a nice office there).

I later joined a startup whose CEO kept moving the office every time he moved his home. Count that as a mistake.

But from the east bay, I BART'ed to both Berkeley and San Francisco, which beat the daylights out of commuting by auto.

Having a family, SF was never an option. Now that I'm retired, I might just wait for the "AI-Pocalypse" and move to SF. (yeah, beware of that. Those billions have not produced revenue, and who knows if they ever will?)

[fishmeat]

How would you compare the tech job options in East Bay vs South Bay? What about working hours?

> But from the east bay, I BART'ed to both Berkeley and San Francisco, which beat the daylights out of commuting by auto.

Would you say this is more true for hybrid arrangement or also for full RTO?

[k310]

At the time, companies were moving to Pleasanton etc. but later pulled back or cancelled. Tech had barely begun to take over SF from south bay roots. And WFH was only for a consulting gig I had in Campbell 32 miles away.

I'd have to ask my son in law about current conditions, and I'll pass this thread along to him for comment.

East Bay homes were more affordable than either SF or SB.

I can't say why the apparent migration was to SF and not eastward. While working at the Sun office in Pleasanton, it was a reverse commute, only hampered by sun angles. But we visited customers, so it was a split between flex office (with Sunrays) and NorCal travel.

Passing this along. Kids live in the East Bay.