[alphabettsy]

> current left-wing philosophy that provides any sort of meaningful place or role for masculinity as it is commonly understood

I think this strongly depends on your reality and perception.

How is masculinity commonly understood and what examples do you have of the left and democrats not making space?

On the other side, how can you not see examples of toxic masculinity demonstrated from prominent Republicans including the president?

[tharne]

> How is masculinity commonly understood and what examples do you have of the left and democrats not making space?

What would you say is the Democratic or progressive view of masculinity and where does it fit in the progressive or liberal worldview?

As a former Democrat, that's not a question I can even begin to answer, because I don't think Democrats,liberals, or progressives see any value in or a role for masculinity. Simply pointing to the other side and saying, "there's some bad guys over there" is not a meaningful retort.

[alphabettsy]

I’m asking you to provide evidence for your claim.

Personally, I don’t see Democrats talking about masculinity that seems to be an obsession of the right.

I think it’s a meaningful because some of the people talking about masculinity and how the Democrats or the liberals want to take that away or get rid of it have often been the worst examples of it in my opinion. I also think it’s worth noting the leaders of political parties and how they themselves represent the values they claim to be fighting for.

[slowmovintarget]

You're right. Democrats don't talk about masculinity, they talk about erasure of gender instead.

>> Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut also notes liberal squeamishness about masculine themes; he says the party is losing male voters in part because even talking about the need to improve the lives of men could run afoul of what he calls the “word police” on the left. Murphy told me, “There’s a worry that when you start talking about gender differences and masculinity, that you’re going to very quickly get in trouble.” The Democratic Party, he thinks, has not been purposeful enough in opening up a conversation with men in general and young men specifically. “There is a reluctance inside the progressive movement to squarely acknowledge gender differences, and that has really put us on the back foot.”

-- https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/democra...

If you can't even speak about the differences between men and women, let alone admit that men and women may face different issues because of those differences, then you'll push whoever you're not prioritizing away. Surely you'll admit that the Democrats prioritize women's issues (e.g. reproductive rights). Many Democrats actively deride men's concerns over economic anxiety, mental health, education gaps, and job losses in male-dominated sectors.

When men didn't vote for Kamala, they were called sexist, explicitly and frequently by both Democrat politicians and the media. Young men who express concern over the future prospects given college and university degree programs graduating more women than men, especially in the last decade, earn the "toxic" label.

There's far more going on with how boys are treated in school, with how media messaging across the board is slanted against masculinity, and how funding for all these efforts traces back to NGOs the Democrats empowered...

So yes, Democrats don't talk about masculinity, on purpose.