[ryandv]

> I don't like talking about a heterogeneous group of people

> many such people in the Ruby community.

In which case, this presumes that the values you share with the Ruby community are positive - otherwise you would be talking about this heterogeneous group in a generally negative way.

This would appear to beg the very question under contention - that the values of the Ruby community are not in fact positive, but toxic; unless you wish to argue that a community can simultaneously profess positive values and still exhibit toxic behaviour.

One position offers historical (and current) examples; the other offers an impressive feat of linguistic gymnastics.