[nawgz]

This type of dismissive attitude is so strange to me. The only reason "lifecycles magic + probably global_state" would be causing your app to behave unpredictably is - this is going to shock you - because you closed your mind to a tool by dismissing it as garbage before you used it, and then failed to use it properly because you think its popularity boils down to PR.

For instance, you could entirely forgo the influence of lifecycles and global state by putting everything in a top-level Context with 1 state object that you only ever update by calling `setState`.

After that, you might find reasons to optimize your app, which could lead you to more interesting approaches like reducers or state management libraries or memoization, but I'm guessing you would never get that far and just go back to what you were doing before, since YOUR preferences are battle hardened and reliable software, while things you don't know about are only popular because of Facebook. Obviously.

[the_gipsy]

So, redux? It's either redux or, sorry, "lifecycles magic + probably global_state". And who uses redux in 2025?

[nawgz]

Honestly, if you’re getting thru life with this attitude, good for you, but you might want to consider if it’s the only way

[the_gipsy]

I'm doing fine, thank you. Perhaps you didn't understand what I said.

My best ballpark guess for global redux usage in react projects is between 25% and at best 50% if you include redux/TEA-like libraries, but not non-pure usage.

So yes, saying that react is `ui = f(state)` does everyone a disservice. It might be true for you, but it's probably not even the average.

[nawgz]

Well, for anyone using Vue you get automatic observability baked in, right? And reactive programming state management libraries within react are plenty popular, not to mention the built in state management being quite literally UI = f(state).

The fact people use the tortured disaster that is redux isn’t really a knock on react in any sane person’s view, we all know the JS community is full of beginners who don’t know better