[krapp]

>What are some examples of this?

If you ever find yourself encountering the message "you're posting too fast, please slow down, thanks" your account has been deemed "problematic" by the mods and rate limited. You won't be warned beforehand or told why, and the limit is permanent until they decide otherwise. They used to slowban as well - have page loading be extremely slow so the site is almost impossible to use. The intended effect is to frustrate you enough that you eventually leave. They also shadowban but at least they warn you now, they didn't always. People would keep posting completely unaware that their comments were going unseen, for months or sometimes years.

The filter on my account appears to require a two hour cooldown after every five comments. I have no idea when I got it or what for, and I'm reasonably certain it used to just be one hour but they bumped it up at some point.

[dang]

I feel like I need to decode for the reader that this is relatively high praise from a krapp comment!

I've removed the rate limit from your account now. You're right that the limit is permanent in the sense that it needs to be removed manually, and that's unfair in some cases. The counterargument though is that most accounts just don't change that much, so this ends up being globally the right call even though it fails in specific cases.

(and no, we didn't bump it up)

[krapp]

>I've removed the rate limit from your account now.

SNפIƎɹ SO∀HƆ

I mean thank you. I know I complain a lot but that's because I care, and I think I've mellowed out over time anyway. I think my greatest sin is just spending too much time here posting.

>The counterargument though is that most accounts just don't change that much, so this ends up being globally the right call even though it fails in specific cases.

If so, it seems to make more sense to apply it by thread rather than by account. Maybe to threads that trip the flamewar detector. For serial trolls the effect would be the same, but it wouldn't interfere with honest participation.

>and no, we didn't bump it up

Fair enough, it can be difficult to tell from the comment timestamps. As long as you're prompting the user anyway maybe add a cooldown timer?

I don't envy you or the other mods your jobs but I do think you put more effort into tone-policing than you need to.

[throw10920]

I didn't mean to ask about penalties. Penalties are good and necessary for problematic users trying to bring politics to the site, wage culture war, and erode the standards that make HN tolerable. I meant to ask about specifically the GP views as bad reasons for penalties to be enacted:

> If you start asking questions about how moderation works or challenge the culture here