[toephu2]

I don't like the wait time though. I don't want to wait 5 minutes for my Waymo to arrive for a 10 minute trip down to the grocery store when I can wait 0 minutes and hop in my own car and just drive there myself.

I do like autonomous cars though, but they won't completely remove car ownership.

[standardUser]

It costs something like $10k-$12k per year to own a car in the US. That's a lot of robotaxi rides. But I can't imagine self-driven cars disappearing either, though I can imagine them being banned in city centers within a decade.

[terminalshort]

It doesn't cost anywhere close to that unless you are driving an absolutely insane amount of miles or have some ridiculous supercar where the insurance rates are insane.

[ragazzina]

Honestly it does not sound that far from reality.

I guess the parent is referencing this kind of study:

> The overall average cost to own and operate a new car in 2025 is $11,577 (decrease of $719 from 2024).

https://newsroom.aaa.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/09/UPDATE-A...

[terminalshort]

I guess we were thinking of different numbers. That's including depreciation, interest and sales tax, which I would consider purchase cost, not part of the cost to own. But

[n4r9]

Makes total sense to include depreciation and finance if you're making a like-for-like comparison with robotaxis.

[furyofantares]

By self-driven cars you mean, a human self? By context I think you do but self-driven is maybe a strange phrase to use to differentiate from self-driving.

[peab]

agreed. they'll make the most sense in dense cities like NYC where having a car is more inconvenient because you have to worry about parking.