[markus_zhang]

ST is a text editor while Zed is an IDE. I wish there were something like VSCode that is very modular but written in native. But VSCode is good enough and it is my daily driver.

[pjmlp]

For those on Windows, which is the topic at hand, UltraEdit and Notepad++.

I disagree Zed is an IDE, it is quite far from InteliJ, Borland/Embarcadero, VS, XCode, Eclipse, Netbeans...

If it is about adding enough plugins until it eventually becomes one, then any programmer's editor is an IDE.

[trenchpilgrim]

My line is - if I can compile, run and debug my program through the editor UI instead of a terminal, it's an IDE.

[niutech]

Sublime Text can run code from its UI too. IDE is much more full-featured, like VS vs VSCode or IntelliJ vs Fleet.

[pjmlp]

As I said, then any programmer editor is an IDE, including UltraEdit and Notepad++.

[trenchpilgrim]

Notepad++ has a debugger UI? One that goes beyond running a terminal inside a pane?

[pjmlp]

It has plugins....and about 30 years of ecosystem history.

Try to use Zed to debug Go code.

[trenchpilgrim]

I'm literally doing that right now. I can set breakpoints and graphically step through them in Go files.

[niutech]

There are always: Vim and Emacs.

[doodpants]

> ST is a text editor while Zed is an IDE.

Zed is the new emacs?

[miroljub]

No. In Emacs you can write a simple one line script and change anything.

In Zed, you need to write a full blown plugin, and can change only what the Zed authors exposed through their plugin API.