[jFriedensreich]

Every time i try to switch to a libre android i encounter the same blocker of not being able to do a full backup and restore with all app data and full control without hacky, weird third party apps that don't work, just as i can do on any linux in the world. I don't understand how the android ecosystem and everyone working on this is just ignoring the data.

[taegee]

Same here. For me the biggest bummer with GrapheneOS is that the promised new back up system is still not even on the horizon and was promised a gazillion years ago.

[ulrikrasmussen]

I use a self-hosted Nextcloud and sync all contacts, photos and calendar with it. Having full native support for all Android apps would be pretty cool though.

[FireInsight]

I've used CalyxOS and Iode on my FP4, both roms integrated with Seedvault and making a full backup was seamless. Which roms have you tried, then?

[jFriedensreich]

googling for seedvault result: “Seedvault's app-specific restoration capabilities are limited, and it does not directly handle WhatsApp's chat backups, which must be handled by WhatsApp its” I am looking for filesystem level data control that can backup everything without relying on something in the control of an app developer.

[FireInsight]

I think it depends on the way applications store data. Local WhatsApp backups may be backed up by Seedvault, but not the database. I'm not sure to be honest, though. I'm so paranoid I also make app-level backups at regular intervals so that nothing breaks or is lost.