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by Calvin02 240 days ago
What part of the quote below suggests encouragement of violence? Seems like one person’s pov about what Kirk espoused.

> In one screenshot shared by the agency, a person identified as an Argentine national said Kirk “devoted his entire life spreading racist, xenophobic, misogynistic rhetoric.”

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American Citizens have the right to offensive free speech in America, a foreigner wishing to obtain a VISA does not and would be an idiot to think he should be allowed to visit if he was posting things like "f... ck America"
The first amendment says "Congress shall make no law [...] abridging the freedom of speech."

It's not a right granted to only certain groups. It's a restriction on what Congress, and by extension the government, can do.

Ackshually there is part of the first amendment that applies to certain people, specifically the right for "the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

The courts have prior held that non-immigrant visas and illegal immigrants usually aren't "the people" referenced by the constitution, which is why they have no right to bear arms which also uses "the people" in reference to the people with that right. If they don't have the right to bear arms, it follows they are not "the people" and thus have no implicit protection to parts of the first amendment that explicitly assign protection to "the people."

It may be up for interpretation whether the immigrants in question were petitioning the government for grievances, if so that may have not been protected if they are not people.

This is just wildly incorrect.
Ahhh.. 1A, but only for specific groups, in specific contexts, as long as you're ok with it. Yes, that's exactly what they meant when they wrote it. le sigh.

I hope your enjoying the current state of the country. It's people just like you that brought it about, so carry on with the winning!

Who is it that conveniently cut out the cruder bits of that post?

https://x.com/StateDept/status/1978218114622910799

It's a gross verbal onanism over someone's death, mixed with the typical baseless dehumanization. If you want this sort of person in your country, my condolences.

please point out any and all verbs or other terms that call for any kind of action. so you found 'remove', right? it's a call for ceasing friendship. is that considered violence?
You do realize what happened with Charlie Kirk is the apex of what happens when dehumanization language is left unfettered, right?
Words do have meanings. That comment may be cruel, but nothing in it is dehumanizing -- unlike, for example, this quote:

"Mere weeks before his death, Kirk reveled in Trump's deployment of federal troops to DC. 'Shock and awe. Force,' he wrote. 'We're taking our country back from these cockroaches.'"

And what's your excuse for most of the Republican party and its media supporters who regularly call for violence against people they don't like?