[parhamn]

Interestingly besides typescript, javascript in 2025 is still super fragmeneted but by a bunch of well-polished tools that all do approximately the same thing. esbuild/vite(rollup)/trubopack(swc), prettier/biome/oxc, npm/bun/pnpm/yarn, bun/node/deno/worker-runtimes

[koakuma-chan]

It's just people refusing to use new tools. Prettier is so much slower than any Rust formatter, it's painful. `yarn install` takes forever. Why not switch to Bun? It's 5 minutes.

[koakuma-chan]

I interviewed at one company a few months ago and they said they don't use TypeScript because the compiler gets in their way, jesus chirst.

[WesolyKubeczek]

The fact that you even didn't mention webpack, once a champion, is especially sad.

[koakuma-chan]

Doesn't Next.js still use webpack?

[elsigh]

It's turbopack time: https://nextjs.org/blog/next-16-beta

[pjmlp]

For me it is easy, Spring/Quarkus/ASP.NET, if it has to be a JavaScript framework, Next.js the way Vercel intended.

Anything whatever the FE team feels like using, and the less I know about it, the better.

[mixmastamyk]

Next.js has been called infuriating here recently: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45099922

[pjmlp]

I know, search for my nickname and you'll get my point of view across several comments.