[happymellon]

There are two minds of thought.

1. Like yours, KDE is similar to Windows so it's less scary for new users.

2. KDE is similar to Windows so will confuse users when it doesn't run Windows software or doesn't quite behave in the same way. Macs don't look the same and people don't get scared or expect their Windows software to run on it.

I can see both arguments, and I've definitely seen internet complaints about both KDE and Gnome being either too similar or not similar enough and they are confused.

[wkat4242]

KDE looks different enough to windows in its default install though. And you can make it look like whatever you want, that's the best thing about it. Mine is heavily customised.

[c-hendricks]

> KDE looks different enough to windows in its default

Uhhhh it does?

https://kde.org/content/plasma-desktop/plasma-launcher.png

https://laptopmedia.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/win10-sta...

https://pointieststick.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/hebrew...

https://platform.theverge.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/cho...

I like KDE a lot, and yes you can configure it to look and act just abut any way you like, but it's default definitely has a lot in common with Windows.

[andmarios]

It's the other way round, at least some, if not all, of these screens were in KDE before they were released in Windows. In general, KDE tends to be widely copied. Even macOS has borrowed a lot from KDE.

It has been over 10 years since I stopped being a KDE fanboy and became just a regular fan, but I remember that during my flame-war era, many features from KDE would often appear in Mac OS and Windows and their most popular applications (such as iTunes).

These days I don't care so much, I use KDE and I'm too old to switch.

[wkat4242]

In common yes but it's not windows, that's pretty obvious.

Especially that start menu with the tiles on windows is very different (and horrible because the default doesn't look like that screenshot, it's filled with ads, news and other crap)

[Forgeties79]

Maybe I need to lower my expectations a bit but I feel like someone who is explicitly leaving windows for Linux by that point would understand it can’t run everything windows does right? In the same way basically everyone gets that a lot of software doesn’t operate on Mac and Windows.

[happymellon]

> I feel like someone who is explicitly leaving windows for Linux by that point would understand it can’t run everything windows does right?

I get it, but it's unfortunately not true.

The amount of folks I've seen complain about their Windows pirate copy of Photoshop CS6 not working on Linux so they will go to Mac over the years has been quite silly.

[Forgeties79]

They’re complaining but I think they at least knew that it wasn’t going to work out the box if at all, they just tried anyway. I work in film production so I’ve seen this exact scenario multiple times and you’re absolutely right, but they weren’t surprised IME. They just thought they could figure it out.

I usually tell them “if you have to use Adobe, then move on. If you don’t care that much, there are plenty of free/affordable programs with feature parity (or better) for Linux against CS6.” I mean it’s pretty old!

[goalieca]

I think there’s more thoughts to…

I migrated my non-technical mom from windows to Ubuntu in 2005 and my daily support questions on how to do this and that went to once a few weeks. Gnome 2 and Firefox was very simple. The OpenOffice stability was also great when Microsoft switched to ribbon.

Eventually I got her on a Mac and she hasn’t asked a question since. She keeps buying new ones ever since.

[dapperdrake]

Point 2 doesn’t count. As far as Windows 11 is concerned even Windows doesn’t run games like old Windows.

[daveidol]

What do you mean?

[dapperdrake]

Many people (myself included) seem to get the impression that software that used to run on MS Windows before version 11 doesn’t enjoy the same level if backwards compatibility and forwards compatibility like it used to. People were half-joking that Linux/WINE now runs some older games better than Windows 11.

The impression might, of course, be mistaken.