[thegrim33]

The older I get the less I care to believe in memes that float around, if everyone online memes about how horrible some product or brand supposedly is. In fact, the more prevalent the memeing is, the more I assume it's either manufactured or has just reached critical level of viral meme where now everyone repeats something simply because everyone else says it.

What percentage of people shitting on some brand actually have owned that brand for many years? And also owned other brands for many years, to be able to compare reliability and have any sort of informed opinion on the topic?

Things like Consumer Reports are just small surveys of the opinion of random members of the population, what they think about the brand, there's no connection to any objective reality about how reliable they vehicles actually are.

In the past I've tried to find a single study that actually compares objective reliability of brands. It does not exist. If you Google for it, everything you will find will eventually, at the bottom of it all, link back to the same Consumer Reports study.

I've owned a 2018 Wrangler for 6 years now, I've put 75k miles on it, many thousands of miles in the most remote places in the country, where if it had issues it'd be a 30 mile hike to safety. It's never once let me down in any way. Never once had a major problem. That's all I care about.