[pkulak]

> What part of cheaper

The iPhone 17 is the same price as the Pixel 10

> better

But the iPhone 17 has better hardware features, like UWB, better cameras, and a _far_ faster CPU.

> open source

Only if you install Graphene, and then never install anything that requires Google Play Services, which is basically every commercial app.

[terminalshort]

In terms of cameras, my pixel takes way better pictures than any iphone, and people I know with iphones (which is basically everyone) admit it.

[krabizzwainch]

Mine was better until Google kept forcing AI sharpening and making things look worse.

[terminalshort]

Which pixel do you have? I have the 9, and I don't seem to have that problem.

[jerojero]

I have an 8 pro.

A month or so ago I went to NYC, I visited some of the museums.

Although I managed to get some great pictures, framing wise and sharpness wise. The color resolution was absolutely ridiculously bad.

I couldn't figure out a way in that moment to fix the issue, but seriously, the colors were so far off it kinda ruined this phone for me.

My friend had an iphone, we took the same pictures of the same paintings and his photos looked much closer to life than mine. Huge disappointment.

In the iphone its very easy to shoot raw and the camera app has a lot of very good intuitive controls. Not to even begin talking about video.

At some point I think Google did make really good photography phones but it seems to me like they've basically stopped trying to stay ahead of the competition whereas apple is always trying to improve. Thats my impression anyway.

[blackbear_]

GOS allows you to install and use apps from the Play Store and the vast majority of them works flawlessly.

[brailsafe]

> The iPhone 17 is the same price as the Pixel 10

I mean, flagship vs flagship idk if one has ever been significantly cheaper, but I've never been in the market for those either. It's very easy to get a higher priced, more interesting, highly specced Android phone. Both iPhones and flagship android phones are way too expensive for what they are capable of compared to any of their own prior generations of themselves, if you ignore tech specs and consider the tangible end-user functionality, but even still.

I've always bought the phone that suits me in the moment, have never budgeted higher than $600CAD, and have simply never been interested in iPhones beyond what used to be nice industrial design. For that, last time I got a brand new Pixel 7 on sale, Pixel 4a, Nexus 5 etc.. and they've all done what I needed and usually came close to matching the fancier versions in some ways in the same year's lineup.

Usually though I have breadth of options to pick from across a range of brands that I can choose between based on whatever the hell I prefer. iPhones are just iPhones, bigger or smaller, more expensive or cheaper, big camera plateau or small, and that's all fine too.

The sideloading aspect for me and a better sense of control is absolutely a component in that preference, and I'll have to consider that going forward, but I'd sooner just dial back my dependence on phones in general than switch to an iPhone.

[akimbostrawman]

>requires Google Play Services, which is basically every commercial app.

Not my experience at all. Only some banking apps or apps that otherwise hard depend on play services feature like google pay. GrapheneOS offer isolated unprivileged sandboxed Google play services for those.

[rangestransform]

> and a _far_ faster CPU.

No longer true with the newest chip that Mediatek cooked up, ARM licensed cores like C1 are catching up rapidly with Apple CPUs (or maybe Apple has hit the limit of their current design philosophy)

[xigoi]

> The iPhone 17 is the same price as the Pixel 10

Too bad there aren’t any other Android phones…