[zoeysmithe]

imho the occasional mixup is going to happen, and eventually it'll be big like this or like Crowdstrike, but pushing these out on Fridays means the critical staff isn't there to help. The people who could have communicated this stuff to customers and dealerships were in bed when people got into their jeeps at 6am on Saturday after an overnight update.

I believe crowdstrike's update was on a Friday night as well.

Unless its a serious security bug, it can wait for not only for better QA testing but also for next Tuesday. Read-on Fridays need to be an industry-wide thing.

[jms703]

To me the bigger issue is that the infotainment system can affect the core function of the vehicle. That seems completely unacceptable, regardless of when an update is pushed out. The two systems should be separate with the infotainment system as the lesser important and unable to actually effect the core system.

[herbturbo]

That is the result of automakers trying to push everything into the HMI so they can eliminate physical controls.

They are doing to cars what electronics manufacturers did to TVs - taking an already-solved UX problem and destroying it with poorly made software in the name of progress.

[radicaldreamer]

Honestly the only thing that's going to change this is criminal liability for safety related software bugs. Otherwise, it's just business as usual and the business for the last 15 years has been cutting QA and asking developers to do testing themselves, which is literally impossible for a lot of software due to lack of proper staging environments and large permutations of configurations.

[hinkley]

Lack of QA also tilts the power dynamic with project management. You could have the lead engineer and tester tell mgmt that things are not ready.

[zoeysmithe]

I think the nature of capitalism will make this impossible. The capital owning class will not allow criminal action for this and will also fight any common-sense regulations. If the working class gets that regulation in via the democratic process, that's fine, but its unlikely especially since it hasn't happened yet since we've gone digital on near everything starting from the 70s and 80s.

The working class lately seems more focused on 'culture war' issues and not economic or material or consumer or worker's rights issues anyway, so we're probably as far from any kind of regulation reform in software as possible. I remember a couple decades ago FOSS as an ideal seemed stronger and you had people like Lessig pushing hard for IP reform and Swartz and others for 'information must be free' honest-to-goodness mainstream movements and all of that seems to have went nowhere and is somewhat to very unpopular today. When was the last time you saw a populist movement towards liberal tech reform like this? Outside of some edge cases like medicine or power generation, the regulations here are purposely kept weak because that's what the wealthy desire.

Maybe our kids or grandkids will have this after the pendulum swings back, shrug.

[jacquesm]

Aviation proves every day that this is perfectly possible if there is a will to do it and a regulator with teeth.

[watwut]

Aviation relators just allowed boeing to self certificate again. Avition has a lot of historical regulations and can work through sheer inertia for years.

But the whole point is, regulator wont have teeth. They have teeth when politicians back them. And as of now, politicians back billionaires and deregulation. Wall street hates regulators, billionaires hate regulators and sizable part of population prefers people dying if it means they cam hurt libs and ennemies.