[rhubarbtree]

Thanks for sharing a video blaming Trump for the Ukraine war.

I don't think that's a fair assessment. I believe Russia is primarily to blame, on account of it repeatedly invading Ukraine.

I believe NATO also encouraged it.

I don't recall Trump ordering American troops to invade Ukraine. Don't see how you're negating my point?

(fwiw, I am not a Trump supporter at all, I just try to see both sides and not hate trump because "he's the other team" - politics is not football)

[greggoB]

> Thanks for sharing a video blaming Trump for the Ukraine war.

I had to do a double-take here - where exactly in the video is Ukraine featured?

> I don't recall Trump ordering American troops to invade Ukraine. Don't see how you're negating my point?

The entire premise of the video I linked is that Trump has no qualms having the US involved in military action, it befuddles me that you somehow seemed to missed this entirely.

> (fwiw, I am not a Trump supporter at all, I just try to see both sides and not hate trump because "he's the other team" - politics is not football)

Hate has nothing to do with it, you made a statement regarding his stance on foreign wars, I provided a source which I believe contextualizes that statement. You're welcome to disagree with the source or its contents or whatever, but throwing out pretty blatant red herrings and silly strawmen just looks silly.

[rhubarbtree]

Hmm, ok let's put the video aside as I watched the beginning of it and that's what I interpeted as saying. Maybe a lesson here is to make your case rather than dropping a link? And maybe the lesson for me is not to reply to low-quality replies. Perhaps we're even.

What exactly is your point? Trump clearly has qualmsin involving the US. Example: he was responsible for the withdrawal from Afghanistan.

[greggoB]

<makes baseless accusation about what was linked, wants to move on when forced to admit to not even watching it>

And people say comedy is dead.

> What exactly is your point?

That Trump isn't as anti-war as he's made out to be

> Example: he was responsible for the withdrawal from Afghanistan.

Probably doesn't matter to you that Biden was president when that occurred? [0]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020%E2%80%932021_U.S._troop_w...

[rhubarbtree]

This is getting personal, so this will be the last reply.

Biden was indeed president when America withdrew. Obviously. Unsure if you’re trolling. I guess so.

Trump set up the withdrawal during his presidency. Biden went through with Trump’s plan.

So, yes, it was trump who was responsible for the decision to withdraw from Afghanistan.

[greggoB]

> Biden was indeed president when America withdrew. Obviously. Unsure if you’re trolling. I guess so.

So they were both responsible - my (non-trolling) point.

> So, yes, it was trump who was responsible for the decision to withdraw from Afghanistan.

Also of interest is how he (trump) decided it should be done, and what ramifications this would have for how badly it would go. This is also covered in the video ;)