[Noaidi]

It’s interesting to read here how many people believe their thoughts are themselves. They are more worried about losing their minds than losing their limbs. Your thoughts and memories are as much you as your hand or your foot. As a society, I think we’ve become so attached to our “self“ that we think is “me“. These people who lose their minds, do they have a sense of self? And if they have a sense of self, do they suffer? Cause you really can’t suffer if you have no sense of self. It may look like you’re suffering from the outside, but it’s hard to say with someone deep in dementia or Alzheimer’s if they’re suffering. I don’t know if it’s something that ever can be known or if it’s ever been asked. I know I have a friend‘s mother right now pretty deep into dementia and she seems OK with everything.

But this is what happened with the man in the original article. He had a sense of himself that he wanted preserve. And that to me as a sickness, a spiritual sickness, greediness almost.

[raw_anon_1111]

How is it “greedy”? I consider greediness as hoarding resources more than you need thst could help someone else. You are not being greedy for refusing to suffer especially when you don’t have any dependents.

[Noaidi]

Yes, you’re right which is why I said greedy almost. I think there are some aspect of him wanting more than he’s deserved. Like wanting a life that ends perfectly while everyone else’s life has to go on with their suffering. But I think it is just generally selfish what he did.

[raw_anon_1111]

Again being “selfish” is just restating the same. How is he withholding anything from anyone else by his decision.

[Noaidi]

Being selfish is being overly concerned with one’s self. He took his own life without regards to the consequence how anyone else would see it. He was also overly concerned with his self image as he stated in his letter.

And he’s taken something, he’s taking his own life. Which I do not believe it was his to take.

[raw_anon_1111]

How is own life not his to take?

[Noaidi]

Does he own his life? How can a thing own itself? Did he obtain this life or was his life giving to him by his parents? If he was created by his parents do his parents own his life?

Are we even sure that our life ends when we die? I’ve had to have someone come back and tell me one way or the other.

I think we are so certain of things that once you really start thinking about them that certain you can disappear quickly.

[circlefavshape]

I agree with some of what you say about the "self", but

> you really can’t suffer if you have no sense of self

... there's no way to know if this is true.