[jeroenhd]

If you're someone who's taking GrapheneOS' thread model into account, a locked down native browser is definitely better.

Chrome has a whole bunch of cool security tricks that definitely outshine many other browsers, but I find it all rather inconsequential when the using Chrome leads to such a terrible, privacy-hostile experience.

[9029]

While I still use Firefox on desktop, on Android I recently switched from Firefox mobile to Brave out of security concerns and frustrations with performance. It has built-in tracker, query param and ad blocking, and is recommended by the GrapheneOS people as a decent alternative to their Vanadium browser [0]. Additionally, I have a gut feeling a Brave user blends in a bit better with its default ad blocking vs say a Firefox user with extensions and filter lists of their choice, but this might be negligible.

On the other hand the affiliate, crypto and AI shit in Brave are quite disgusting tbh, but at least they can be disabled. I also miss Firefox sync a bit.

[0] https://grapheneos.social/@GrapheneOS/111966258971400137

[eipi10_hn]

> I have a gut feeling

No, it's not. They use the same lists as uBO's. There's literally nothing called "blends in better" here, and there's no definition and proof of it either.

[9029]

The difference is that unlike Brave and Vanadium, Firefox doesn't come with an ad blocker. You will have to install uBO. If you want to also trim tracking query params, you will have to enable a non-default filter list. Modifications like these will make you stand out from the average Firefox user. It's the reason why installing more extensions and messing with settings is not recommended when using Tor browser or Mullvad browser. The GrapheneOS project also discourages it (https://grapheneos.org/usage#web-browsing).

But you are still right, I don't have data for this or even a measure for uniqueness, it's just a guess.

[FrinkleFrankle]

Brave on desktop is also fantastic. Especially if you use a policy config to remove annoyances and harden it further.

[jeroenhd]

Brave is definitely faster. I have it installed as my broken-website-doesn't-work-on-Firefox browser. I dislike the cryptocurrency grifting too much to use it as a default, though. There are way too many settings I need to disable to make the standard browser UI non-annoying for me to trust it.

Vanadium also seems cool, but it doesn't work on my non-Graphene devices.

I personally like the uBlock solution for how quick it managed to block Youtube's ads in things like private tabs where I'm not logged into Premium.

[stogot]

Does Chromium have the same security features?