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by andrepd 250 days ago
Yep, that's definitely what we need more of right now, not less.
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What's the objection? I don't see how having my heart rate scanned at an airport or military checkpoint in any way impinges on my freedom or happiness.
Please supply your dna and biometrics at every entry point of a public roadways. Thank you good citizen.
> Please supply your dna and biometrics at every entry point of a public roadways. Thank you good citizen.

Hysterical slipper slope nonsense.

Using RF to passively detect someone's heart rate at close range is objectively less intrusive than cameras are.

Right up until they take you aside for body crevice analysis because your heart rate was a little high, anyway
Doesn't seem like a reasonable objection to me. It takes a lot of time and man power to search people's body cavities. The incentive is to avoid searching as many people as possible.
> The incentive is to avoid searching as many people as possible

Oh good lord. Now it's no longer even "have you read a history book on the 20th century?" anymore, it's "have you been paying attention to the world for the past 15 years?".

> Oh good lord. Now it's no longer even "have you read a history book on the 20th century?" anymore, it's "have you been paying attention to the world for the past 15 years?".

Spare me the hysterics and the insults. What exactly is your claim?

That body cavity searches have increased rapidly over the last 15 years? That it's a common occurrence? That security personnel actually has an incentive to do them more rather than less?

Give me the books you read and sources you read that support your claim. I doubt they exist. I suspect you're going off "vibes" here, but I'll gladly read them if you can cite them.

> What exactly is your claim?

I think it's plain enough. That giving the state security apparatus more tools to arbitrarily harass people at their discretion is a Bad Idea™.

> That security personnel actually has an incentive to do them more rather than less?

I have absolutely no idea where you're going with this or what makes you believe this is how the world works. Are you from the US? Certain "security personnel" have been working overtime since the start of the current presidency as I'm sure you're aware... And again: picking up a history book will lead you to realise how mistaken your quaint belief is ("incentive to work less"?).

True. To avoid searching as many of the wrong people as possible, and search all of the right people. Of course, those categories are fluid.

Today you’re among the people to avoid searching; tomorrow, well… maybe you’ll have a reason to be nervous.

> Today you’re among the people to avoid searching; tomorrow, well… maybe you’ll have a reason to be nervous.

What do you even mean here? Seems entirely incoherent.

You're missing the point: if the computer picks you out for some reason (perhaps you are ill, perhaps you are worried about losing your job or a family member's health, whatever), they won't care about the economic inefficiency or the infringement on your rights. Just because you don't intend to commit crimes doesn't mean you're immunized from bad decision-making by security systems.
Explain how it's worse than a camera or thermal camera that detects you sweating? Explain how it increases the incentive to do body cavity searches?
Are you always this rude? No.

Edit: after looking through the rest of the thread, it appears that you are. Happy Saturday I guess.

Because having a high heart rate doesn't mean you've committed a crime. Are you trolling?
"Of course there would be many false positives, so it wouldn't be good enough on its own."
Going through airport security is stressful and unpleasant already with a lot of people whose heart rates are probably somewhat elevated as a result.
"Of course there would be many false positives, so it wouldn't be good enough on its own."
Unless something about you is targeted to increase searches to intentionally inconvenience people like you. Then it just becomes parallel construction.