[breve]

> In this way, "full" was intended to describe the system's intended ability to perform the full task of piloting a vehicle, not that the system has achieved some unspoken threshold of engineering perfection.

No. Tesla simply lied. Tesla very specifically claimed it would outperform human drivers.

In 2016 Tesla claimed every Tesla car being produced had "the hardware needed for full self-driving capability at a safety level substantially greater than that of a human driver":

https://web.archive.org/web/20161020091022/https://tesla.com...

Wasn't true then, still isn't true now.

[simondotau]

I don't think it's proven that Tesla knowingly lied as opposed to catastrophically misjudged the level of processing power required in 2017. But you'll get no argument from me that it's a distinction without a difference, for customers stuck with older iterations of FSD hardware.

[BurningFrog]

I think the hardware definitely is that good.

The software is perhaps not there yet. But that's not what they claimed.

[breve]

> I think the hardware definitely is that good.

Tesla doesn't: https://electrek.co/2025/01/29/elon-musk-finally-admits-that...

HW4 isn't good enough either. Tesla straight up lied to you. No point defending the lie.