[em500]

Sure, nothing strictly requires iOS/Android in paper specs and in presentations. But we all now that the only working practical implementations will be one iOS/Android. I mean, look at the actual code in the (Microsoft) github repo.

The EU forced Apple to open NFC for third party payments, which is great. But all the banks in the Netherlands only have working card payments in Apple and Google Wallet. Including the largest bank (ING), that used to have independent in-app NFC payment on Android (where NFC was always open) but seems to have capitulated and now only offers it via Google Wallet.

[StopDisinfo910]

Wero is launching phone payments via NFC in the Netherlands next year.

At some point, it’s legitimate that innovations are developed for platform that people actually use. It’s good to be practical before being political sometimes.

[ktosobcy]

> Sure, nothing strictly requires iOS/Android in paper specs and in presentations. But we all now that the only working practical implementations will be one iOS/Android. I mean, look at the actual code in the (Microsoft) github repo.

No, we don't know. You are projecting and again - spreading FUT.

Did you do anything towards implemeting the specs on other platforms? Or are you only very vocal online complaining?

In that repo they clearely stated, that they focus on Android/iOS as it's the most popular platform (contrary to what the IT bubble here may think) and want to reach the most user with the (initial) implementation.

> The EU forced Apple to open NFC for third party payments, which is great. But all the banks in the Netherlands only have working card payments in Apple and Google Wallet. Including the largest bank (ING), that used to have independent in-app NFC payment on Android (where NFC was always open) but seems to have capitulated and now only offers it via Google Wallet.

OK, again - you are projecting Netherlands issues over the UE. Surprisingly - in Poland I can pay with ING bank with NFC. Same in Spain with BBVA app.

Just because something is broken in your corner of the universe doesn't mean it's the global fenomena :)

Also - instead of complaining about the EU - maybe try persuaiding the entities to add support?

Alas - I'm pondering ECI initiative to actually force "Open Android" (ie. withou Google Services being required) as a valid platform because I was fed up with Google imposing more and more overreach. Android is quite OK if it werent for the walled garden from google…

[ciupicri]

> in Poland I can pay with ING bank with NFC

Not in Romania. You have to use Google Wallet. You can't use the ING Pay app anymore since last year.

[ktosobcy]

I was just suggesting that ING has different policies in different countries.

As for "we have to use google wallet!!!":

https://i.ibb.co/4Z9dMvzR/Screenshot-20251011-184343-Setting...

basically all banking apps for accounts I have (alior, PKO - biggest polish bank, ING Poland and spanish BBVA as well as curve to which you can add whicever card)