[jjj123]

As you mention, plenty of bakeries, grocery stores are worker owned. For example rainbow grocery is not _cheap_ but the quality is high and the bulk prices are not bad.

For some reason two of the biggest and best flour brands are worker owned: King Arthur and Bob’s Red Mill.

But if we’re talking bottom of the barrel prices, I don’t know many worker owned orgs that focus on that.

Turns out when operations are more democratic and left leaning (and all worker owned coops I know of in 2025 are left-leaning), workers are unlikely to support things that are cheaper but have negative externalities. So produce is more likely to organic (and expensive), farming practices are more likely to be ethical (and expensive), etc.

I’ve been on the lookout for worker owned clothing brands but they’re few and far between.

[rahimnathwani]

The post to which I replied was specifically about:

- worker cooperatives, and

- quality and affordability

I don't know whether worker cooperatives are more or less likely than a median business to generate negative externalities, so I won't comment on that part.

I wouldn't call Rainbow Grocery 'affordable'. It's been a long time since I bought anything there, but I recall it being much more expensive than every single chain supermarket (not just the lower end ones).

King Arthur and Bob's Red Mill are not 'worker cooperatives' as far as I can tell. They both have ESOPs (Employee Stock Ownership Plans), but I don't see anything suggesting they're run in a democratic (one employee = one vote) fashion.

[wahnfrieden]

https://www.bobsredmill.com/employee-owned Certainly many non-coop businesses have ESOPs but this says the goal is to transition to 100% employee-owned via the ESOP (rather than the typical single or low double digit employee grant pool). I recall reading that when Bob was dying he decided or had it in his will to transition his ownership fully to the employees.

edit: "100% employee owned / That happy day came in April 30th of 2020: as of our 10th anniversary, Bob’s Red Mill is now 100% employee owned, one of only about 6,000 businesses in the country to achieve this incredible feat."

Equal Exchange is a worker-owned co-op: https://equalexchange.coop their management leadership positions are rotating (across workers) and have compensation multiplier caps. The coffee at least is quite affordable compared with other specialty brands.

Thanks to zoning laws in Japan, whereby practically anyone is able to start a retail business with minimal capital and permitting requirements, there are many shops and food-related businesses that are worker-owned. Many are also highly affordable can be cheaper than chains or convenience options (apart from the very cheapest of chains).

[rahimnathwani]

'worker-owned' and 'worker cooperative' are not the same thing.

Re: small busineses... Many family businesses are 'worker-owned' but they are not 'worker cooperatives' because either:

- there's only a single worker, or

- the decisions are generally made by a single person (e.g. 'head of family')

Re: Bob's Red Mill... it has a board and a CEO etc. It doesn't seem to be a 'worker cooperative'.